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#1 D-Sign

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Posted 06 September 2005 - 04:56 PM

WAHHH this is bugging me sooo much now lol so many ppl claim to be making vectors but all they do its make arrows or download a vector pack...but its not a vector ne one else feel the same as me and some one please give a clear definintion as to what a vector is.....my def is- an image that can be strethched with out loosing any quality in the image...like a custom shape in ps and u can make them using the pen tool...what do u guys think?

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Posted 06 September 2005 - 05:08 PM

lol yea i always did wonder if they were actually vect0rz

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Posted 06 September 2005 - 05:33 PM

Yea its the same thing with Renders. Renders arent images that have been cut so it looks transparent, renders are like auto cad models, or bryce models, or 3d max models, or maya models.

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Posted 06 September 2005 - 05:38 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vector

dig in there, and for future reference, I wouldn't really take a sig maker’s word too seriously. They know less than half of what they "think" they know.

A vector cannot be a brush, period. That’s just stupid. The only reason they call it vector is because they have nothing else to call it.

I can’t really show an example of vector on the web because technically they are representation of a vector. Once you present a vector on Jpeg or Gif (or PNG) format it loses its integrity to be called vector. Vector are not bits, or raster images.

Here is the DeviantART definition.

“Vector art consists of creating paths and points in a program such as Illustrator, Freehand, Corel Draw, and Flash. These programs keep track of the relationships between these points and paths. Every time the image is scaled, the paths are regenerated: this creates images that are infinitely scalable without degradation. Images created in raster-based programs or images that have been filtered to resemble vector-based art should not be placed here. Deviations that do not meet these requirements will be removed without notice. Place those images in the appropriate Digital Art section to avoid this.”

I doubt any of the sig makers bother to read that^ :rolleyes:

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Posted 06 September 2005 - 05:55 PM

I have no difficulty depicting the difference between raster brushes and vector shapes, the vectors are always clearer, no matter what. It also obvious in the placement and usage. I want vector to become fairly poular, but not trendwhoreish with all those brushes, that just makes real vector artists look like asses.

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Posted 06 September 2005 - 06:14 PM

Sorry... Im still new to alot of this. :hi: :rolleyes:

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Posted 06 September 2005 - 06:14 PM

Fcuk!, on Sep 6 2005, 10:55 PM, said:

I have no difficulty depicting the difference between raster brushes and vector shapes, the vectors are always clearer, no matter what. It also obvious in the placement and usage. I want vector to become fairly poular, but not trendwhoreish with all those brushes, that just makes real vector artists look like asses.
O god do i agree.

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Posted 06 September 2005 - 06:30 PM

Prototype, on Sep 6 2005, 05:38 PM, said:

“Vector art consists of creating paths and points in a program such as Illustrator, Freehand, Corel Draw, and Flash. These programs keep track of the relationships between these points and paths. Every time the image is scaled, the paths are regenerated: this creates images that are infinitely scalable without degradation. Images created in raster-based programs or images that have been filtered to resemble vector-based art should not be placed here. Deviations that do not meet these requirements will be removed without notice. Place those images in the appropriate Digital Art section to avoid this.”
That is correct.

A vector, in short, is a shape you define, which the computer fills in with a defined color and/or pattern (like a gradient etc.). The reason it can be stretched to infinite size is that it is not actually an image, simply a path with a predetermined ratio of color inside the boundaries of the path.

Again, like Prototype said, I doubt many sig "artists" will read that....

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Posted 06 September 2005 - 06:51 PM

Prototype, on Sep 7 2005, 11:38 AM, said:

I can’t really show an example of vector on the web because technically they are representation of a vector. Once you present a vector on Jpeg or Gif (or PNG) format it loses its integrity to be called vector. Vector are not bits, or raster images.
:rolleyes: exactly that has always been that, started out as a vector ended up as a jpg, gif or png

A trend started a few yrs back and everything was vector this and that, and its still going I see it a lot here.

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Posted 06 September 2005 - 07:45 PM

all true ppl u have proven me right lol...some one should make an article about what makes vector art true vector art..if there isnt one lol

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Posted 06 September 2005 - 10:48 PM

http://www.vexels.net/what.php

^^this link might help clear the confusion

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Posted 07 September 2005 - 04:55 AM

Yes, yes it does, but it doesn't break it down enough.

I just don't want this to get out of hand, at this point it's not a problem, but in the near future it could quickly become a very big problem.

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Posted 07 September 2005 - 12:16 PM

dang, means that my "vector vehicle" wasnt a vector ;) , now ill have to start all over again :huh:

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Posted 07 September 2005 - 12:28 PM

Hmm im more pointing arrows/stars etc to "Retro styled" art ;). Might call them retro brushes -.-

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Posted 07 September 2005 - 01:11 PM

LOL... This reminds me of people that think "rendering" means to slice out an object in an image and paste it into their sig.

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Posted 07 September 2005 - 01:30 PM

Faken, on Sep 7 2005, 06:11 PM, said:

LOL... This reminds me of people that think "rendering" means to slice out an object in an image and paste it into their sig.

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That's adding a render isn't it? I thought rendering was when you actually create a 3D Object and save it?

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Posted 07 September 2005 - 04:05 PM

people are evil...

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Posted 07 September 2005 - 04:15 PM

Ilyaz, on Sep 7 2005, 06:05 PM, said:

people are evil...
I suggest a crash course on the rules.

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Posted 07 September 2005 - 08:23 PM

ronson, on Sep 7 2005, 06:30 PM, said:

Faken, on Sep 7 2005, 06:11 PM, said:

LOL... This reminds me of people that think "rendering" means to slice out an object in an image and paste it into their sig.

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That's adding a render isn't it? I thought rendering was when you actually create a 3D Object and save it?
Yes, that is what he means. Rendering just don't apply to 3d but 2d softwares as well.

Some people render (digital paint) a character or a car on photoshop too. B)

Edited by Prototype, 07 September 2005 - 08:24 PM.


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Posted 07 September 2005 - 08:32 PM

lol the last fourm i was on there was a section for renders so im like oh cool 3d art, but it was just pics witn no bg lol makes me smile inside and out

Edited by D-Sign, 07 September 2005 - 08:33 PM.






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