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Posted 11 October 2004 - 05:14 PM

I just wanted to put out a little thought on this.

There were always rumours I'd heard here and there about the amount you could change someone's picture and whatnot to make it your own, and copying from someone else's art was 'ok' and stuff, but I've recently found out this isn't true.

Apparently copyright is held by the creator of any picture or ANY sort of media or art. If you make it, you have intellectual copyright to it and ANY part of it used is copyright infringement.

Just a little thought for thos who are making sigs from someone else pics, or pictures from other people's work. Hell I've done it myself, but I think the only thing that is allowed is the making of 'parodies' or funny things as long as it doesn't effect the artist or the subject in the art.

Even putting women in your sigs is an infringement on that model and the photographer who took the picture's rights.

Now I know this is a bit extreme, but I'm just putting it out there so you all know the truth. I've been studying it in school and on my own for the last week :) and I didn't know the rules myself so I figured others wouldn't.

I'm sure using something in your sig isn't a big deal unless it became the most famous sig in the world or something, but just think about who's work you are using when you use it and think about if you would want your art cut up and used elsewhere without your permission.
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Posted 11 October 2004 - 07:29 PM

<- points to your avy.

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Posted 12 October 2004 - 01:50 AM

People very rarely follow up copyright infringements unless the infringer is making profit off using the image/media or if the image/media is insulting to anyone involved in the original (model, artist, photographer, etc)..

You're right though, ANY use of ANY image or other media that isn't an original product by yourself without prior written consent by the author is copyright infringement.

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Posted 12 October 2004 - 11:58 AM

if this is true, doesnt that make all images and stuff made out of photoshop give adobe copyright as they have copyright and your using theire colours and IDE ect...

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Posted 12 October 2004 - 12:54 PM

its wierd this copyrightthingy, ronson adobe cannot copyright anywork that you make in photoshop because you made it, not them, adobe is just a program , and adobe doesnt own any colors..... lol that would be pretty funny if someone owned colors.

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Posted 12 October 2004 - 07:33 PM

Copyrights are only relevant when it comes to "copying".. hence the name :love:

By using photoshop to create a unique graphic you're not copying anything.

Whereas, if you made a program that is the same as photoshop, then that is copying them and THEN their copyrights come into action.

Plus, there's rules with copyrights.. you can't copyright something really common.. like colours.. because it's impossible for other people to NOT use them.. you can only copyright things that are genuinely unique and original, and that don't already exist.

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Posted 13 October 2004 - 06:03 PM

cenithx, on Oct 13 2004, 12:33 AM, said:

Copyrights are only relevant when it comes to "copying".. hence the name :D

By using photoshop to create a unique graphic you're not copying anything.

Whereas, if you made a program that is the same as photoshop, then that is copying them and THEN their copyrights come into action.

Plus, there's rules with copyrights.. you can't copyright something really common.. like colours.. because it's impossible for other people to NOT use them.. you can only copyright things that are genuinely unique and original, and that don't already exist.
Speaking of copyrights, did you pay for your invisionboard liscense? Or did you remove it anyways?

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Posted 13 October 2004 - 06:44 PM

hey dont ya think it wud be funny if everything was copyrighted even names!!!! likes my names james and it was copyrighted 20 years ago and im been sued billions lol that wud be funny!

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Posted 14 October 2004 - 02:23 PM

hey dont ya think it wud be funny if everything was copyrighted even names!!!! likes my names james and it was copyrighted 20 years ago and im been sued billions lol that wud be funny!


lol ronson that would be really funny the world would go into chaos, oh wait what if i got sued for saying these copyrighted words :D oh man i just made a face theres another suit.

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Posted 14 October 2004 - 10:13 PM

Gio, on Oct 13 2004, 11:03 PM, said:

cenithx, on Oct 13 2004, 12:33 AM, said:

Copyrights are only relevant when it comes to "copying".. hence the name :o

By using photoshop to create a unique graphic you're not copying anything.

Whereas, if you made a program that is the same as photoshop, then that is copying them and THEN their copyrights come into action.

Plus, there's rules with copyrights.. you can't copyright something really common.. like colours.. because it's impossible for other people to NOT use them.. you can only copyright things that are genuinely unique and original, and that don't already exist.
Speaking of copyrights, did you pay for your invisionboard liscense? Or did you remove it anyways?
The copyright is still there in the ALT text for the footer. I've had this discussion with plenty of people already. It's still a visible credit with URL for invisionboard so we haven't broken the license agreement.

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Posted 15 October 2004 - 12:16 PM

if you use Arnold swartzeneggers muscle on your own body it's not copyright because it's not really recongnizeable..

the point is it cant be someone else's original work and actually look like it, and you get credit for it.

if you use a can of coke, per say... you just have to remove the logo and you can still use the red can. the can is universal, as in the colours in photoshop, but the logo isn't. Unless the can had some copyrighted weird shaped tab-opener on it or something then you'd have to remove that too... but I think you could even use that if it has been produced over 50 times.

I'm not immensly skilled on all the laws, but these are just little tidbits I am picking up.

Logos are different... but when it comes to 'things' like a shape of paper or like that popcan, I think you can use them if there have been more than 50 made... this may even apply to cars, except you have to remove the logo on the car ;>

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Posted 15 October 2004 - 02:51 PM

cenithx, on Oct 15 2004, 03:13 AM, said:

Gio, on Oct 13 2004, 11:03 PM, said:

cenithx, on Oct 13 2004, 12:33 AM, said:

Copyrights are only relevant when it comes to "copying".. hence the name :o

By using photoshop to create a unique graphic you're not copying anything.

Whereas, if you made a program that is the same as photoshop, then that is copying them and THEN their copyrights come into action.

Plus, there's rules with copyrights.. you can't copyright something really common.. like colours.. because it's impossible for other people to NOT use them.. you can only copyright things that are genuinely unique and original, and that don't already exist.
Speaking of copyrights, did you pay for your invisionboard liscense? Or did you remove it anyways?
The copyright is still there in the ALT text for the footer. I've had this discussion with plenty of people already. It's still a visible credit with URL for invisionboard so we haven't broken the license agreement.
Actually it is not visible by plain site so you are. Just to inform you, invisionboard takes serious action towards liscence policy abuse.

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Posted 16 October 2004 - 08:07 PM

insanegraphix, on Oct 14 2004, 07:23 PM, said:

likes my names james and it was copyrighted 20 years ago and im been sued billions lol that wud be funny!
My name is James! Give me money ;) lol





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