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[c-c-C-C-UNIT]

Just compare -

tutorialized.com Alexa rank: 6,878

good-tutorials.com Alexa rank: 7,456

pixel2life.com Alexa rank: 8,719

Pixel2Life has the most tutorials out of the three (double tutorialized) yet, it's about 2,000 sites behind it. I think the reasons are a too graphical heavy layout on pixel2life (over 800kb's for homepage all things together). Which is about over twice as much as tutorialized which clocked in at about 360kb, and good-tutorials is even smaller. Maybe it has something to do with SEO, but I don't know much about it.

What do you guys think?

[c-c-C-C-UNIT]

People don't leave sites and not come back because they use tables. It would be nice but it's not driving that many people away.

[Donna]

c-c-C-C-UNIT, on Apr 3 2006, 11:57 AM, said:

Pixel2Life has the most tutorials out of the three (double tutorialized) yet, it's about 2,000 sites behind it. I think the reasons are a too graphical heavy layout on pixel2life (over 800kb's for homepage all things together). Which is about over twice as much as tutorialized which clocked in at about 360kb, and good-tutorials is even smaller. Maybe it has something to do with SEO, but I don't know much about it.

What do you guys think?

alexa rankings are only based off users that have the alexa toolbar installed they are not true traffic rankings and never have been, they just give a general traffic view.

[Faken]

You're comparing sites that have been around twice as long as we have FYI. Check our rank when we're 4 years old and we can compare

Dan

[c-c-C-C-UNIT]

@Donna, yes, but I see no reason why GT or Tutorialized visitors are more likely to have to the Alexa toolbar installed than P2L visitors. It's a valid point, but I don't see it as a very good defense.

@Faken, yes, that makes sense, perhaps I just think that P2L should be less graphical. But it still confuses me as to how you guys could get more tutorial submissions, and still have less visitors. And I hope I have bigger fish to fry than checking P2L Alexa rank 3 years down the road .

edit: Grr, I think I know the real problem behind this, it's that you guys delete too many of my posts.

Edited by c-c-C-C-UNIT, 02 April 2006 - 08:04 PM.

[Donna]

c-c-C-C-UNIT, on Apr 3 2006, 01:03 PM, said:

edit: Grr, I think I know the real problem behind this, it's that you guys delete too many of my posts.

Then stop trolling, last friendly reminder on that too.

[SebLev]

to my opinion it doesnt have that much to do with the graphics... true hteir is alot but its been cut down alot sins the start.... and even still they try to make it smaller and faster..... but to be honest most people that work with graphics and stuff like that would have a good connection in the end... well thast what i find..... and if you visit this site enough you dont even notice the loading time of the graphics.... and like donna said dont base your statistics on a navigational bar that not every one has.....

[Jamie Huskisson]

I agree 100% that Pixel2life isn't reaching its potential at the moment

It's a fair point that it maybe has too many graphics... and i've been personally complaining about that for a while now...

You'll see lad, you'll see

[syndrome]

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You'll see lad, you'll see

Sorry this is semi off topic, but i found something through a subdomain here a couple of days ago that i gather will be used in the future, rather amusing

Edited by syndrome, 03 April 2006 - 03:45 PM.

[DanWilliamson]

I love P2L the way it is and to be honest I gather your talking mainly about the forum community here. The more members we get the more chance we have of getting incompatent noobs spamming.

Off topic:

I used to be one of them "/

[c-c-C-C-UNIT]

syndrome, on Apr 3 2006, 08:43 PM, said:

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You'll see lad, you'll see

Sorry this is semi off topic, but i found something through a subdomain here a couple of days ago that i gather will be used in the future, rather amusing

The catagory portal? Maybe I'm not supposed to talk about it, but he brought it up, plus anyone can find out subdomains using the dig command.

Off Topic: I still am one of them .

Anyway, making a 56k layout and a heavy graphics layout is taking the easy way out, make the hard decisions for you users!

Edited by c-c-C-C-UNIT, 03 April 2006 - 04:25 PM.

[l3lueMage]

You gather will be used in the future syndrome? I think it WILL be used

They could always have a lightweight version of the site so in your settings if u register you can like choose in your profile "IM ON DIALUP" or "IMAGe sIZE? WHO CARES??"

[c-c-C-C-UNIT]

l3lueMage, on Apr 3 2006, 09:24 PM, said:

You gather will be used in the future syndrome? I think it WILL be used

They could always have a lightweight version of the site so in your settings if u register you can like choose in your profile "IM ON DIALUP" or "IMAGe sIZE? WHO CARES??"

From 37signals Getting Real -

"Preferences are a way to avoid making tough decisions

Instead of using your expertise to choose the best path, you're leaving it in the hands of customers. It may seem like you're doing them a favor but you're just making busy work for them (and it's likely they're busy enough already). For customers, preference screens with an endless amount of options [c-unit's note: think IPB] are a headache, not a blessing. Customers shouldn't have to think about every nitty gritty detail - don't put that burden on them when it should be your responsibility"

[Jamie Huskisson]

the portals are just a side project of fakens that weren't really promoted anywhere... don't worry your allowed to talk about them

[syndrome]

c-c-C-C-UNIT, on Apr 3 2006, 10:09 PM, said:

syndrome, on Apr 3 2006, 08:43 PM, said:

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You'll see lad, you'll see

Sorry this is semi off topic, but i found something through a subdomain here a couple of days ago that i gather will be used in the future, rather amusing

The catagory portal? Maybe I'm not supposed to talk about it, but he brought it up, plus anyone can find out subdomains using the dig command.

Off Topic: I still am one of them .

Anyway, making a 56k layout and a heavy graphics layout is taking the easy way out, make the hard decisions for you users!

No I'm talking about something you cant touch.

[MK_LAGI]

p2l is good as it is, i dont see much wrong with it other than that the enviorment is a bit too serious i mean it lacks a certain sense of humor....

[coolaid]

MK_LAGI, on Apr 3 2006, 10:18 PM, said:

p2l is good as it is, i dont see much wrong with it other than that the enviorment is a bit too serious i mean it lacks a certain sense of humor....

word i'd like to say a few sarcastic things on my mind every know and then.. but its not acceptable...

[DanWilliamson]

coolaid, on Apr 3 2006, 11:47 PM, said:

MK_LAGI, on Apr 3 2006, 10:18 PM, said:

p2l is good as it is, i dont see much wrong with it other than that the enviorment is a bit too serious i mean it lacks a certain sense of humor....

word i'd like to say a few sarcastic things on my mind every know and then.. but its not acceptable...

HMM. Yes I have had this a few times; where from where I come from certain things mean different to Donna ( the person who always warns me over PM "/ ) so we have to follow the rules 100% and not bend them a tad to spice some things up. But I suppose thats just way of life..

[SKETCHi]

I'd just like to point out a quick fact about Alexa ratings. Yes, they only count users with the Alexa Toolbar. No, the people who visit the other sites are just as likely to use it as the visitors of P2L. However, did you know that just two or three regular visitors can scew the stats greatly?

I don't think you realize it, but one website owner can take his site from unranked to the top 50,000 by using it himself/herself and visiting daily. We are not talking about the ranks in the 50,000's in this case, but it still stands. Just a few return visitors can sway it a lot.

Now, I do agree that P2L has a large amount of images, and I would like to see a new version without tables, but that really isn't detouring visitors...

I think the real problem is negative threads!