its really disappointing Dan that it has came to you and Jay being enemies when you two were like my goal friendship online, I always looked up to you and him, more so him because i was closer friends with him. I believe Jay has made some pretty good points, I do not deny you are a good guy and that you try hard on P2L and ill be damned to deny saying you dont listen to opinions but it does seem to me that P2L has and specially when i was staff, Been a bit chaotic with the moderation of users, the warnings, the bans, and the posts being edited/deleted/mysteriously gone.
I am not trying to take sides or go at you so please do not feel like i am your enemy. Its just sad seeing to great minds who once were working as one split.
You have no need to take sides bud and I agree, it's a shame that things had to go down the way they did... could have been handled completely differently, but that's the way things go. Time to move on, whether other people involved want to or not We have a huge site and community to keep running, so I don't really have time to get into pointless drama.
Large forums will always be a difficult thing to maintain and it's impossible to keep everyone happy and you'll always piss people off. People seem to lose sight of the fact that there are thousands of members here from all walks of life, not simply a couple dozen. Arguements are natural, but the "bravery behind the keyboard" syndrome turns them into flame wars every time and it's pointless.
I'll be having a meeting with the Donna and the moderators soon and we'll have a round table on how things are done etc, but it's tough to correct anything when no one complains aside from a lot of swearing and name calling with a vague reference to some post that can't be found (we don't delete the posts... they are moved to a junk bin). Give me real examples and I will investigate them... and believe me I do. Ask D.. I'm always snooping around, looking at stuff that got locked and asking why if I don't see why they were etc.
It's always in my best interest and the best interest of this site to try and make most of the community happy. I do this with experience, discussing it with staff, but most of all listening to you. But I can't take action or look into things if no one tells me until things come to a head, and rest assured I can be objective if your inquiry is worth reading. Cussing someone out is a waste of time and makes it rather hard to be objective when you're already going overboard. Hey, I get frustrated too, but nothing gets accomplished until you calm down and do the research and take the appropriate action... coming out with the guns blazing doesn't get us anywhere.
So, if you have a problem with the mods, tell me. I'm not going to ban you for it and I'll find out what's what... actually a great example of this in action just happened recently. I won't get into it, but I basically found out about a reason that topics were getting moved to junk and I didn't think it was necessary so I got together with D and took care of it.
Capish?
Dan