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#51 Indigo

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Posted 24 May 2006 - 05:27 AM

On twod-tutorials, don´t make me click 14 times to watch a tutorial - I really dislike the pages there, everything should be in just one page.
Else than that, I love p2l. ;)

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Posted 24 May 2006 - 05:29 AM

what about adding a vegas and premiere section to the tutorials? ;)

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Posted 24 May 2006 - 06:43 AM

To be honest i dont see a reason to come visit the forum every day? When i see my owner site "shoutgfx" my users come back because of mods we have installed such as "ibstore" the ibstore is like gold, everytime u make a post u get 1 gold and then u trade buy and sell stuff for gold to keep a long store short ;-).

I would have a competision area like my site - http://www.shoutgfx....hp?showforum=40

When i started my site i didnt think competisions where that big but wow for a few month old forum its not to bad and the prize's arnt costing me a penny!

Good Luck Dan

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Posted 24 May 2006 - 06:48 AM

I haven't had any problems with forum moderation, which seems to have been mentioned a couple of times, but I would be in 7th heaven if people didn't use so much chat speak. That's just me being completely anal though ;)

I only have a few suggestions, really..
1) Some sort of 'thanks for voting' page when you click on a link on a person's site to vote for them in the topsites thing. I submitted my site recently (don't seem to have been approved yet?) and asked a few friends to vote for my site if they felt it deserved it - they did so, but weren't sure if their votes went through because it took them straight to the p2l index page.

2) Quicker approval of tutorials. Is this even possible? Is the hold up due to the sheer amount of tutorials submitted or is due to a lack of time to check them?

3) Perhaps stricter rules on tutorials? I am still concerned about security with some of the php tutorials. I guess this isn't an issue for your graphics and general html tutorials, but certainly I'd like to see less tutorials where people are recommending inserting unsanitary data in databases and the like.

Just my preliminary thoughts :)

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Posted 24 May 2006 - 07:00 AM

View Postfiked, on May 24 2006, 12:42 PM, said:

To be honest i dont see a reason to come visit the forum every day? When i see my owner site "shoutgfx" my users come back because of mods we have installed such as "ibstore" the ibstore is like gold.

heh. most people dont come to forums to buy imaginary stuff with store money.

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Posted 24 May 2006 - 07:00 AM

The one thing I think this site should have is the ability to go to someones profiles and see all the tutorials they have submitted using their IP or something like that.

Other than that maybe just point out the forums a bit more, and other resources P2L has. ;)

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Posted 24 May 2006 - 07:20 AM

A few more things:
A couple of norwegian forums I´m in have a "Pastebin" of some sort, where you can insert scripts of all kinds for others to read, or so you can remember. To add this, along with a search-function (to choose to search for c++, php, asp, etc...) would be a great recource, and people could post their scripts there instead of being yelled at when they try to do it in the "php-tutorials"-section. This should also have colored code, like in Dreamweaver, which makes codes a lot more easy to read.

The idea about the gold is not that bad, there could be something like "If you find the hidden midget in the forums, you get 5 points" or something. To get points for each post you make would probably make certain people spam a lot just to get points, but with surprising competitions (like the "find the midget"-thingy) people could actually browse the forums. There should also be lots of different things, as people probably get tired of the same things all the time.

As another suggestion, you could have a P2L-shop - it might give the site some income, and I´d like a P2L teeshirt or a cute teddybear with a nice motive to give to my girlfriend. If there were lots of cool motives (not just the standard logo) this could give the site quite lot income, at least my imagination tells me it might. And you can have competitions so people can design shirts for sale, which would give them a bit of income, and/or points ;)

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Posted 24 May 2006 - 07:37 AM

yeah, its hard to know the specifics of the argument but I do know that communication is the universal solvent. you guys need to get a cup a jo and talk stuff out, if you dont live nearby then at least get on the phone, if you guys are this upset at the other person it shows how much that friendship actually means to you, work it out guys ;)

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Posted 24 May 2006 - 07:59 AM

View PostDirk Black, on May 24 2006, 01:36 PM, said:

yeah, its hard to know the specifics of the argument but I do know that communication is the universal solvent. you guys need to get a cup a jo and talk stuff out, if you dont live nearby then at least get on the phone, if you guys are this upset at the other person it shows how much that friendship actually means to you, work it out guys :)

A great point Dirk, unfortunatly when your only method of communication is probably msn (a phone bill from england to canada or visa versa is pretty hefty i can imagine, and even then it'd be too uncomfortable) then this makes it hard, it's all too easy to mis-understand text that's written here and there and go overboard... After an 'event' such as this and all the drama that seems to be swarming from no-where all around it, it's difficult to patch things up. That said, if Faken's reading this and wants to start a chat with me, he's welcome.

But for now, let's have everyone back on topic :)

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Posted 24 May 2006 - 08:06 AM

@Indigo:

Here is an example of a PasteBin: http://www.pastebin.be/lang-en/ , this one belongs to www.sitemasters.be . It is very usefull :)

@Jay: That's why there are Google Talk and Skype :)

Edited by Xfader, 24 May 2006 - 08:07 AM.


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Posted 24 May 2006 - 08:47 AM

Great feedback everyone!

To Jem - I agree that the approvals have fallen behind but it's simply because I've been so busy with the new development that I am a bit behind AND yes, because of sheer volume... I go through hundreds to approve 20. Right now I am about 7 to 10 days behind and I am aiming for 3. Things should get back to normal fairly soon.

Fiked - There's a couple forums I participate on where I have over 20,000 posts on each... never got a single point :) I would prefer to have people come to the forums because they want to chat and contribute, not to collect points by posting for the sake of it. I'll bring this one up with staff and see what they think... I've also seen forum RPGs that look like fun.

To CT - You do not require an account of any kind to submit tutorials :) Even so though, 99.9% of the people that submit a tutorial do so for their own site, so all you have to do is click the "view all" link next to the source site name and you'll get a list of all the tutorials for that site.

Stu - My response to Jay wasn't hypocritical in the slightest. His very first item in his post was an attack on me and the rest is pure nonsense. Stop making up examples to attempt to prove a point.

"but how many times have you turned a thread about a computer (for example) into a parachute pants thread?"

Huh? Sorry but I don't seem to remember doing that ever, let alone many times... Here a list of every post created that the word parachute appears. You'll notice none of my posts are off-topic.

Move on fellas...

Indigo - You mean similar to the script sumission that was mentioned earlier right? Yeah, that's looking like a popular idea :D

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Posted 24 May 2006 - 09:13 AM

View PostFaken, on May 24 2006, 02:47 PM, said:

To Jem - I agree that the approvals have fallen behind but it's simply because I've been so busy with the new development that I am a bit behind AND yes, because of sheer volume... I go through hundreds to approve 20. Right now I am about 7 to 10 days behind and I am aiming for 3. Things should get back to normal fairly soon.
Have you thought about taking on extra volunteers or something, specifically for going through tutorials?

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Posted 24 May 2006 - 09:18 AM

View PostJem, on May 24 2006, 10:12 AM, said:

View PostFaken, on May 24 2006, 02:47 PM, said:

To Jem - I agree that the approvals have fallen behind but it's simply because I've been so busy with the new development that I am a bit behind AND yes, because of sheer volume... I go through hundreds to approve 20. Right now I am about 7 to 10 days behind and I am aiming for 3. Things should get back to normal fairly soon.
Have you thought about taking on extra volunteers or something, specifically for going through tutorials?

It's starting to look like I won't have a choice lol!

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Posted 24 May 2006 - 09:24 AM

View PostFaken, on May 24 2006, 03:18 PM, said:

It's starting to look like I won't have a choice lol!
Well, I don't know the first thing about Photoshop and graphics programs of that ilk, but I'm a whizz with X/HTML and CSS and I know 'enough' PHP so if you need a hand going through those sorts of tutorials, you only have to ask.

Although, saying that, I'm probably far TOO picky for your needs :)

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Posted 24 May 2006 - 09:29 AM

View PostFaken, on May 24 2006, 01:47 PM, said:

Indigo - You mean similar to the script sumission that was mentioned earlier right? Yeah, that's looking like a popular idea :)

Yeah, like this:
Pastebin
Code example
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Posted 24 May 2006 - 11:40 AM

i like the forum as it is.
it would be nicer if the critique my site would be more accesible :)
i am making now a cool site and i wana show (hopely it comes out as i imagine it)

great forum

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Posted 24 May 2006 - 03:56 PM

  • how about a shoutbox at the index?
  • CSS homepage would be GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD
  • music to the site? Flash can do a browser-winnamp easy.
  • mIRC channel !!! Have you seen a webIRC? java-full and easy to deal with... This would be a great thing. We coould get LIVE HELP istead of posting a topic at the forums :P
more ideas comming up;... B)

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Posted 24 May 2006 - 04:09 PM

I dont like he top 3 idea's, kinda pointless IMO.

I like the IRC idea but not with the java applet. There are loads of IRC clients, even an FF extension.

But IRC = good.

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Posted 24 May 2006 - 05:33 PM

View PostCT., on May 24 2006, 06:00 AM, said:

The one thing I think this site should have is the ability to go to someones profiles and see all the tutorials they have submitted using their IP or something like that.
you would have a problem there with people. For example me and my brother have the same IP both submit different tutorials from different sites so it would show up I submit more than I really do.

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Posted 24 May 2006 - 09:13 PM

If you make the main website in CSS it would be awesome! And maybe an IRC channel.

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