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[Dale71]

I thought we could give this forum a little more discussion.

Well 1st off, if I'm wrong sorry, I've only learnt about euthanasia in philosophy and ethics. IF I have some of my facts wrong sorry.

Well what is euthanasia, euthanasia is taking away sombodys life at there own request or because they have a terminal illness which can't be treated and it would get rid of alot of suffering to take there life away from them.

Euthanasia is illegal nearly all over the world yet it still happens alot.

My personal opinion on euthanasia is that I think it is ok in some sort of way. I think that if I was in dire pain and I couldn't bare to live I would have liked sombody to end it. Yes some people may think is morrally wrong as it is classed as murder or manslaughter

But here's a situation for you.

Your in the army transporting goods around, and your lorry is rammed into and crashed, you manage to get out the vehicle but your partner is stuck inside wedged between lot's of metal which has gone straight through his body, you watch the lorry being surrounded by "the enemy" and your partner is stuck inside in dire pain, and is going to die either by the metal gone through his body or by the hijackers... What do you do, you have a rifle with a scope, do you shoot him so he hasnt got to go through or any pain, or leave him to suffer a painful death?

Share your comments on this subject.

[Donna]

Euthanasia is either through oral, intravenous, or intramuscular administration of drugs, not shooting someone.

[N4Z.]

Pretty morbid subject..

But Im with you on this one.. If i knew that i had around 5 weeks to live.. and i was in so much pain it was unbearable.. i would rather have a nice painless relief.. but on the other hand (Theres five other fingers.. Joke) i would rather live out in pain if i knew it meant i would be okay afterwards..

Im sure there are lots of other views on it.. its just weird thinking of it.. But i definately see where you're coming from


Donna, i think he was giving an example of a fast death..

[Dale71]

Yea, but people use guns aswell for this, whatever the definition is, Killing somone by any means nessersary to get rid of there pain should be euthanasia I think.

[Matthew.]

I think to choice itself to decide you wish to die under such circumstances like illness should be your choice. Afterall do you not get the choice not to be resusitated in hospital? (different topic of course but its relevant)

Alli can say is no one should be allowed to "out law" it as they themselves wouldnt havegone through what some of these terminally ill patients do, and having watched many shows on going to (is it sweden?) t have this happen, the way its carried out is very respectful to the person who wishes to die.

Then again you do get the faith side of it which of course says suicide is wrong and people will always argue that its a sin etc, but i think its up to the induvidual.

And yeah your example of Euthanasia isnt really that accurate

Edited by .Matt, 05 August 2006 - 11:41 AM.

[Dale71]

Yeah well you do have the choice not to be resusitated but thats when your about to die... You'd had already gone through lot's of pain.

[Matthew.]

I think the choice not to be resusitated allows you to decide when YOU have had enough, the only difference is that you are already a goner if you exscuse the expression when you are resusitated.

But its still your choice to die or not. Its a similar concept really.

Also remember a lot of people dont decide to kill themselves due to their own pain, its what they are causing to others, e.g. family etc

imo we pospone death to long anyway (via medicine etc).

Edited by .Matt, 05 August 2006 - 11:47 AM.

[N4Z.]

I dont see how you can have the choice to be resusitated when you are out cold? :confused:

[Dale71]

You would make the desision before hand.

[Matt L]

I think if someone is going to die painfully via an illness they then it should be aloud. But I don't think that if there's a possibility of survival then the drugs should be administered

[Dale71]

But what if the chance of survival will be living a painful life?

[Matt L]

Then yes.

[N4Z.]

Like.. Being Disabled from the eyeballs down..

I feel so sorry for those kids on TV who are Death, blind and Dumb The things they cant see or hear.. Quite upsetting really and makes you feel how lucky you really are.. But i think that if someone has had a big illness like encurable (cant spell ) Cancer.. You do not understand how much pain it is untill you have it .. My brother died from cancer and he was in pain all the time.. But i think that when you go through those stages and you know you're not going to be around much longer.. you just make the most of what you have.. And thats exactly what he did..

[Matthew.]

Synitex, on Aug 5 2006, 05:58 PM, said:

Cancer.. You do not understand how much pain it is untill you have it .. My brother died from cancer and he was in pain all the time.. But i think that when you go through those stages and you know you're not going to be around much longer.. you just make the most of what you have.. And thats exactly what he did..

Firstly im sorry to hear about that, although i have never (touch wood) experienced it i can imagine what it puts people through on seconds thoughs i probably cant, having never experienced it.

My nan has cancer but apparently (and i say this light heartedly only because she does herself) "she's so old and has other illnesses she'll be gone before the cancer kills her"

No one can say if its right or wrong it is does come down to that. I dont know what i would choose if i faced a future being hardly able to move and drugged up 24-7 on some pill that causes god knows what other side affects. I know im only 15 now and i think i wouldnt ever consider the possiblilty of "ending it", i think im a strong enough person to live with it, but when your old its different, youve lived more. You cant say ending it is taking the easy route out either, as im sure doing it isnt exactly an easy choice to make.

Edited by .Matt, 05 August 2006 - 12:18 PM.

[N4Z.]

Very true. My brother was on Kimo (Cant spell Pronounced: Key-Mo) therapy aswell.. in a way it was such a relief because we were all worried for him.. but he was as hard as nails i mean mentally .. It wasnt a struggle for him everyday but after he had his medicine he was totally different, lifeless infact.. it didnt seem right..

[Dale71]

I think my own personal opinion on Euthanasia has been because of my Grandad who died of cancer, he was always in alot of pain. It did somthing weird to his leg at 1 time, He had to have a vein removed in his leg that gave his toe the nerves to feel. It was a very scary time, if the operation went wrong he would have had to have his whole leg amputated.

My grandma told me that he always used to be moaning to her, he used to be saying Please please just do anything to take me away from this pain, and he would have happly died but my Grandma refused. He then died a few months later in servere pain.

Edited by Dale71, 05 August 2006 - 12:20 PM.

[N4Z.]

sorry to hear about that Dale.

[Barkeeper]

My aunt had (lung)cancer and she also had chemotherapy but unfortunatly it didn't help and she died not very long after that. She had cancer and was suffering but not that much that it was unbearable to live her life as long as possible so euthanasia wouldn't be a good sollution for here.

The way she found out that she had cancer is actually quite shocking. She went to the local hospital because her knee hurt. They said it was alright but she didn't believe it so she went to another, bigger / more professional, hospital. When the results came they told her that she had cancer.

Edited by Barkeeper, 05 August 2006 - 12:34 PM.

[Dale71]

Ahhh that sucks, Thats how my Granddad found out he had Cancer well somthing similar, he went in for an operation or somthing that wasnt related to cancer in any way at all and then found out.