Any one else here interested in music production?
I spend most of my spear time in music production and I gotta say that is one addiction that has really bitten me.
I used Cubase for many years and since switching to Mac I now use Logic.
Just wondering if anyone else here is interested in this as well.
If you want to hear my stuff you can click on my Creative Audio link.
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Music Production is cool.
Started by _*Creative Insanity_*, Jun 19 2007 05:32 PM
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Posted 19 June 2007 - 05:52 PM
I've kind of had the interest of getting into music production. I'm more of a movie production person though - except I don't have a digital camera yet or anything lol. I just scab videos from the net 
Your music is really cool! I'll probably be asking you some questions at a later date, if that's alright by you![:whoosh[1]:](http://www.pixel2life.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Your music is really cool! I'll probably be asking you some questions at a later date, if that's alright by you
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Posted 19 June 2007 - 06:11 PM
yeah I do video as well. Most of the video stuff I do is for rave promotions and for that I use Final Cut.
If you have an understanding of what a good track consists of then that is half the battle. I have heard some real horror tracks in my time all because they do not understand what balance is required to make a track sound good.
You need all the frequency ranges and no clashing.
But I could talk on this all day. I also co-admin a music production forum with Dan Brinslee. He in his time was one of the top producers in Norway.
But yeah if you have any questions ask.
If you are just starting out I would suggest that you start with a more simpler sequencer such as Reason so that you can get to grips with the concept first and then once you understand it switch to something more powerful like Cubase or Logic for Mac. But please what ever you do, don't touch those budget sequencers like loops and acid. They are just crap. There is no nicer word for them.
If you have an understanding of what a good track consists of then that is half the battle. I have heard some real horror tracks in my time all because they do not understand what balance is required to make a track sound good.
You need all the frequency ranges and no clashing.
But I could talk on this all day. I also co-admin a music production forum with Dan Brinslee. He in his time was one of the top producers in Norway.
But yeah if you have any questions ask.
If you are just starting out I would suggest that you start with a more simpler sequencer such as Reason so that you can get to grips with the concept first and then once you understand it switch to something more powerful like Cubase or Logic for Mac. But please what ever you do, don't touch those budget sequencers like loops and acid. They are just crap. There is no nicer word for them.
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Posted 19 June 2007 - 07:19 PM
Dude, those tracks are better than most DJ's can do... You done them all from scratch, cause that's pretty awesome!? Anywhere I can download those songs?
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Posted 19 June 2007 - 08:04 PM
yes I done them all from scratch. Made all the samples as well.
No, no where they can be downloaded.
No, no where they can be downloaded.
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Posted 19 June 2007 - 08:39 PM
Hey, music production is quite cool. Bought a Yamaha MOTIF XS6 recently (see image). It came with Cubase AI 4 which i couldn't try yet (trying to get it work on Vista).
I see you do some nice psy-trance, i'm more into orchestral stuff though. So sampling is definitely the way to go for me.
Bug, as Creative Insanity said, you should start with learning the basics of MIDI. Everything is done using MIDI and some good samples. Reason is good softare to start with. Then be sure to get a good MIDI controller and a DAW like Cubase, Sonar, Pro Tools or Digital Performer.
I see you do some nice psy-trance, i'm more into orchestral stuff though. So sampling is definitely the way to go for me.
Bug, as Creative Insanity said, you should start with learning the basics of MIDI. Everything is done using MIDI and some good samples. Reason is good softare to start with. Then be sure to get a good MIDI controller and a DAW like Cubase, Sonar, Pro Tools or Digital Performer.
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Posted 19 June 2007 - 10:46 PM
Nice keys NG. My controller is a M-Audio Keystation. No twiddly bits on like yours but does the trick. This is where NZ is very sad. Any specialize hardware is an arm and a leg. My controller cost me $400 and you can get the same I am told in Europe for around 80 euro. Huge difference. I was looking at an analog mixer the other week and it was really nice.. then I saw the price. Nearly $4,000. I sorta backed away really fast LOL.
Yeah I had another mate I was meant to do a collaboration with but he could not get his newly purchased copy of Cubase 4 to work with Vista as well. He said he will just go back to XP and end all the hassles.
Also I have heard that many VSTs have a major hassle with Vista. Man I am glad I switched to Mac and don't get those problems. My personal opinion is that Logic is not as good as Cubase (although I was told it was) and wish now I got Cubase 4 for Mac instead of logic. Oh well.. once I have saved up for the Wacom maybe I will get Cubase again.
Yeah I had another mate I was meant to do a collaboration with but he could not get his newly purchased copy of Cubase 4 to work with Vista as well. He said he will just go back to XP and end all the hassles.
Also I have heard that many VSTs have a major hassle with Vista. Man I am glad I switched to Mac and don't get those problems. My personal opinion is that Logic is not as good as Cubase (although I was told it was) and wish now I got Cubase 4 for Mac instead of logic. Oh well.. once I have saved up for the Wacom maybe I will get Cubase again.
Edited by Creative Insanity, 19 June 2007 - 10:47 PM.
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Posted 19 June 2007 - 10:49 PM
I produce music, mostly hip hop though. I havent made a beat in ages, and I dont use a REAL studio. My cousin and I use FL Studio to make our beats.
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Posted 19 June 2007 - 10:53 PM
Oh dear dip.. loops is one sad program sorry.
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Posted 19 June 2007 - 11:12 PM
lol, i have to agree on that. Sadly, too few softwares that are actually good.
Do you use any sample libraries/VSTs or its all custom? I'm currently looking at some EastWest Quantum Leap samples for strings, brass and woodwinds. They have a symphonic choirs program which is REALLY nice. Be sure to check this demo video:
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Basically, you write the words in English, Phonetics or Votox. Then you adjust the samples timeline and crossfading. Then you play the chords on your MIDI keyboard and it sounds just perfect. The mod wheel controls the vibrato of the choir. Too bad it's 600$ though (and 9 DVDs i think? lol)...
Do you use any sample libraries/VSTs or its all custom? I'm currently looking at some EastWest Quantum Leap samples for strings, brass and woodwinds. They have a symphonic choirs program which is REALLY nice. Be sure to check this demo video:
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Basically, you write the words in English, Phonetics or Votox. Then you adjust the samples timeline and crossfading. Then you play the chords on your MIDI keyboard and it sounds just perfect. The mod wheel controls the vibrato of the choir. Too bad it's 600$ though (and 9 DVDs i think? lol)...
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Posted 20 June 2007 - 12:51 AM
i use custom samples that i make from old school songs, like maybe crop a part of a song that has a nice instrument sound to it then manipulate it to sound original, and go from there..
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Posted 20 June 2007 - 01:55 AM
Most of my stuff I done with Hypersonic (excellent program that) and I also have some one shot samples which are pretty good quality. I remember a couple of years back I bought a sample CD and when I looked at the content I was horrified. They were all low bit mp3 files. Needless to say I quickly took that back in disgust.
I normally only use a few VSTs. Some Waves ones (they are bloody awesome.. no other work for them) and also Blue.
When I used Cubase on the pc I also used some PSP stuff. Their compressor is second to none in my books.
I am on the hunt at the moment for something like Kontakt and Recycle. but not easy to find for Mac.
That word builder looks awesome and I could see a use for that in my genre as well.
I normally only use a few VSTs. Some Waves ones (they are bloody awesome.. no other work for them) and also Blue.
When I used Cubase on the pc I also used some PSP stuff. Their compressor is second to none in my books.
I am on the hunt at the moment for something like Kontakt and Recycle. but not easy to find for Mac.
That word builder looks awesome and I could see a use for that in my genre as well.
Edited by Creative Insanity, 20 June 2007 - 02:04 AM.
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Posted 20 June 2007 - 03:50 AM
My brother is a UK Hip Hop/Grime Producer, hes he has been dubbed number 1 UK PRoducer at the moment by many people..
http://www.myspace.c...lhallproduction
He started off using Fruity loops for a few months when he did 2 step garage as a hobby, then he moved to Reason which he has used for around 2 years now.
He uses a keyboard too, not sure what its called but set him back nearly £1000, his Set up is pretty hot, he has a bungalow next door to my house (Its in my back garden but sort of next door) and in there hes got his mixing desk, an extra mixer, Technics 1210 Turntables, Keyboard, dual screen, Mac desktop and he makes quite a bit of money now, around £600 - £1000 a tune.
So, what was a hobby is now an art and profession.
Scott Storch and Timbaland are his idols, but it's weird because Scott Storch and Timbaland hate each other.. hense that tune with timbaland "Im a real producer you just a piano man, i get a half a mil for my beats you get a couple grand" Think its on "Give it to me"
anyways, thats pretty much my bros beginning passage to his biography lol.
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You can just about see his set up:
http://www.myspace.c...lhallproduction
He started off using Fruity loops for a few months when he did 2 step garage as a hobby, then he moved to Reason which he has used for around 2 years now.
He uses a keyboard too, not sure what its called but set him back nearly £1000, his Set up is pretty hot, he has a bungalow next door to my house (Its in my back garden but sort of next door) and in there hes got his mixing desk, an extra mixer, Technics 1210 Turntables, Keyboard, dual screen, Mac desktop and he makes quite a bit of money now, around £600 - £1000 a tune.
So, what was a hobby is now an art and profession.
Scott Storch and Timbaland are his idols, but it's weird because Scott Storch and Timbaland hate each other.. hense that tune with timbaland "Im a real producer you just a piano man, i get a half a mil for my beats you get a couple grand" Think its on "Give it to me"
anyways, thats pretty much my bros beginning passage to his biography lol.
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You can just about see his set up:
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Posted 20 June 2007 - 01:48 PM
Reason and Sony Acid are definately worth a try and worth the price tag, you can make some awesome things with both of them.
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Posted 20 June 2007 - 01:56 PM
Seems that your brother is making a good go of it then. Cool.
Can't see much of his setup in that image.. just a tower and keyboard really.
If he has used reason for that long I think by now he has hit a brick wall. Maybe it is time for him to move on to Cubase and open the world of VST to him. He will see his quality get better 10 fold.The thing about this industry is that the producer normally makes bugger all, and you will only stay on top until the next person comes along and topples you. Cut throat industry.
You jest.. Acid is junk mate and doesn't belong in the same class.
Can't see much of his setup in that image.. just a tower and keyboard really.
If he has used reason for that long I think by now he has hit a brick wall. Maybe it is time for him to move on to Cubase and open the world of VST to him. He will see his quality get better 10 fold.The thing about this industry is that the producer normally makes bugger all, and you will only stay on top until the next person comes along and topples you. Cut throat industry.
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Posted 20 June 2007 - 01:58 PM
Creative Insanity, on Jun 20 2007, 07:56 PM, said:
Seems that your brother is making a good go of it then. Cool.
Can't see much of his setup in that image.. just a tower and keyboard really.
If he has used reason for that long I think by now he has hit a brick wall. Maybe it is time for him to move on to Cubase and open the world of VST to him. He will see his quality get better 10 fold.The thing about this industry is that the producer normally makes bugger all, and you will only stay on top until the next person comes along and topples you. Cut throat industry.
You jest.. Acid is junk mate and doesn't belong in the same class.
Can't see much of his setup in that image.. just a tower and keyboard really.
If he has used reason for that long I think by now he has hit a brick wall. Maybe it is time for him to move on to Cubase and open the world of VST to him. He will see his quality get better 10 fold.The thing about this industry is that the producer normally makes bugger all, and you will only stay on top until the next person comes along and topples you. Cut throat industry.
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Posted 20 June 2007 - 03:19 PM
I know what I am doing trust me and acid is so sad. I would not even consider it for anything serious.
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Posted 21 June 2007 - 12:56 PM
Creative Insanity, on Jun 20 2007, 09:19 PM, said:
I know what I am doing trust me and acid is so sad. I would not even consider it for anything serious.
Depends if you like to actually compose songs/beats or remix them?
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Posted 21 June 2007 - 01:47 PM
Dub the sound engine in acid is budget and I do mean budget. No professional would consider acid, you can trust me on that. Many artists (groups and suchlike) use ProTools.. which I will be buying one day.
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Posted 21 June 2007 - 02:27 PM
ProTools cost $$$$$ though lol. And it has some hardware you can use with it which adds to the cost. But it's definitely the professional solution to go with.
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