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[Adam Sheridan]

This article has been floating around the internet for quite a while now, mostly on deviantart. But just incase you havm't read it, here you are

Good article, and exactly what the title says, every Artist should read this!

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1. It is not a "great opportunity" for an artist to have his work seen on your car/'zine/website/bedroom wall, etc. It IS a "great opportunity" for YOU to have their work there.

2. It is not clever to seek a "student" or "beginner" in an attempt to get work for free. It's ignorant and insulting. They may be "students", but that does not mean they don't deserve to be paid for their hard work. You were a "student" once, too. Would you have taken that job at McDonalds with no pay, because you were learning essential job skills for the real world? Yes, your proposition it JUST as stupid.

Read the full article here: http://positionrelative.wordpress.com/2007.../craigs-pissed/

- Adam

[Pax]

100% true. This is also the reason I don't often browse the for hire forums on p2l. Its mostly people asking for free stuff, or offering $50 for a job. Right now I can make $50/hr from an average client...$100/hr from a good one (and I'm not one of the super duper top of the industry guys yet). What makes anyone think that I'd be willing to spend my time for 50 bucks....makes no sense to me.

[Bug]

Wow, that looks to be an interesting article. Thanks for posting that

[knedl]

A very nice read indeed, thanks

[Adam Sheridan]

I'm gonna have to bump this, I can honestly say this needs more publicity especially on p2l

- Adam

[α∂αмяoss]

Extremely informative and 100% true. Good find and great read.

[Spide®™]

Good read, and so true

At the moment i dont mind doing free stuff, as iam building a portfolio, so iam geting something out of that my self

Thx for the find

[Ben]

This guy cannot be more right about what goes on in the design business. I've been ripped off and scammed before, and it sucks. Problem with me is that I cannot put a price on my work. I usually hesitate when I go to give a quote, and most of the time I give it to them for a price I know is low.

[lysol]

awsome read. thanks!

[.Shine]

Truly amazing, kudos to you Craig! and thanks for posting this Adam. I'll be keeping your words in mind, as i was scammed before, and now im looking for people who will actually pay me for the job. Hmm... where would one go?

Edited by .Shine, 02 December 2007 - 08:28 PM.

[Beret]

This was so true, especially the point about not paying 'beginners' or students for their work. I'm thinking of starting to design templates for some extra cash on the side and this has helped, thanks

[Dragolux]

Nice. I'll read it!

[TOreDEFINE]

Honest and truly enlightening. Short, but possibly one of the most important pieces I've read in a while.

[MagnumC]

perfectly said..

[eireen]

very well said. Thanks for sharing it with us. Anyway it depends to the person how she/he deals with life. Nice article and true, a must read one!

[unnati]

Very nice thoughts. If you can't work for no bucks than how can you expect for some one else. This thoughts will stop every one and will force to think..

[MarkB]

Thanks for that post, not only do i have something to think about for the rest of the day but now when someone is asking for stuff for free ill return with one of the many fine quotes here.

[Fernkurs]

That was a very nice article. I agree, even if a person is just a beginner or an amateur, he/she still deserve to be paid for what he/she worked for.

[Frauenhandys]

I also saw this on deviantart. I agree with everything written in that article. Every artist deserves to be paid for their hard work.

[Amherstclane]

Hi guys,
Very nice thoughts Thanks for that post, not only do I have something to think about for the rest of the day but now when someone is asking for stuff for free ill return with one of the many fine quotes here. Anyway it depends to the person how she/he deals with life. Nice article and true, a must read one.

Thanks you