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#1 Chris.

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Posted 23 September 2007 - 10:33 PM

Well, I have been using Windows for years, and I want a switch. I wanted some opinions of people.

I want to switch to a Linux base, and I have narrowed it down to Ubuntu, or Kubuntu. What one do you think I should use. Also when/if I do switch, I want to use Photoshop, and a nice IDE for PHP coding. Will Photoshop work on either of these operating systems, and does anyone know of a good programing IDE that could be used on either of these operating systems?


PS: This isn't a thread about what the best PHP IDE is, this is a thread about what Linux base (Ubuntu, or Kubunu) you think is better, and what IDE's will work with those operating systems.

Thanks!

Edited by Chris., 23 September 2007 - 11:07 PM.


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Posted 23 September 2007 - 10:59 PM

Fedora is what my college uses for their CS department. They also recommend Eclipse for Java editing. I hear Eclipse has a PHP version, but have yet to try either.

If you search the forums, you'll find plenty of recommendations for php IDE's (infact, there is currently a topic amongst the top few in the PHP category). As such, i ask that you limit your question to whether or not those programs would work on a Linux base so as to avoid duplicating the thread here.

Edited by rc69, 23 September 2007 - 11:00 PM.


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Posted 23 September 2007 - 11:28 PM

I hear Mac OS X is a good operating system...

then again, I might be a little biased. :)


I really like Fedora for PC though. I never could get it to install correctly on my computer but that was in the early stages when it was known as Fedora Core.


You could always check out BeOS as well, although that would be more of a secondary OS.

Edited by SpatialVisionary, 23 September 2007 - 11:30 PM.


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Posted 23 September 2007 - 11:52 PM

yeah SpatialVisionary Darwin is a good distro ah hehe

BeOS is ok, but the support not too crash hot. Linspire is another good one and lots of features. There are so many Linux desktops out there now. Let me think on it and get you a nice list.

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Posted 24 September 2007 - 02:04 PM

I think I am going to go with Fedora. But, I want to install it on my USB Drive (40 GB) first to make sure I like it. Is this possible? Can I still boot into Windows with this installed on my USB Drive?

Also, does anyone have a good coding IDE for Fedora, and does Photoshop work with it?

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Posted 24 September 2007 - 04:50 PM

There is a program out there, i believe it's called "wine," that supposedly lets you run any windows program on Linux. If you find out your programs don't work, you should try it out.

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Posted 24 September 2007 - 04:58 PM

Well, I'm running Fedora from the Live CD, and I am wondering. If anyone has experience with Fedora, how can I change my pixels. Is it possible?

Also, does anyone who is experienced with Fedora know how to install Fedora to an external USB drive? And make it boot form that drive?

Thanks!

Edited by Chris., 24 September 2007 - 05:18 PM.


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Posted 24 September 2007 - 05:51 PM

ok here is a tip....GET A MAC!!!! they are the greatest for any kind of GFX work please get one also they are really easy!

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Posted 24 September 2007 - 07:32 PM

If I were you, I'd go with Ubuntu as it's the most beginner friendly distro. It has almost all the mp3 codexs already up there for you, in Fedora you have to SEARCH long and hard to get mp3 support, etc. If you got a releativily fast computer you can use KDE desktop environment, but I recommend fluxbox or XFCE even if you can handle KDE. Also, if I were you, I'd get used to using emacs or vim first before you start using an IDE editor. In fact, use the command line as much as possible, because if you switch to Linux, you'll find you have so much more freedom and power to customize your OS if you use the command line rather than the gooey (GUI). As for your question about Photoshop. I do believe there is a Photoshop version for Linux, but the most popular gfx program is The Gimp, just like Photoshop, if not better. Here's a excellent resource site for you. www.ubuntuforums.org. They are extremely active and are VERY helpful, esp. the beginners team (which I'm on), they can help you out with almost anything that occurs. Check them out on irc at irc.ubuntu.com #ubuntuforums-beginners.

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Posted 24 September 2007 - 08:53 PM

If I were you, I'd go with Ubuntu as it's the most beginner friendly distro. It has almost all the mp3 codexs already up there for you, in Fedora you have to SEARCH long and hard to get mp3 support, etc. If you got a releativily fast computer you can use KDE desktop environment, but I recommend fluxbox or XFCE even if you can handle KDE. Also, if I were you, I'd get used to using emacs or vim first before you start using an IDE editor. In fact, use the command line as much as possible, because if you switch to Linux, you'll find you have so much more freedom and power to customize your OS if you use the command line rather than the gooey (GUI). As for your question about Photoshop. I do believe there is a Photoshop version for Linux, but the most popular gfx program is The Gimp, just like Photoshop, if not better. Here's a excellent resource site for you. www.ubuntuforums.org. They are extremely active and are VERY helpful, esp. the beginners team (which I'm on), they can help you out with almost anything that occurs. Check them out on irc at irc.ubuntu.com #ubuntuforums-beginners.


http://www.xmms.org/

I found that several years ago. Have successfully used it on the Slackware distro, the installation is relatively easy, it looks exactly like winamp and even can use the same skin files (at least they used to).

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Posted 24 September 2007 - 10:42 PM

Ok Linux ( I can see another tut comming up).
The good thing about any distro of Linux is that you can install it where ever you want, on what ever drive you want.
Just select the location and setup. Make a system and swap drive on the disk you want. Remember that Linux does not read as C: D: etc. Look for (remember Ken god damn it), C: drive would read as HDA. So say you have 3 partitions on your C: they would read as HDA, HDA1 and HDA2. So for your USB drive look for where it is in the chain and it could be HDB etc, but if your cd rom is on the same chain as HDA then the usb would be HDC.

Then just setup the drive. You will have to make sure that the USB drives load, so make sure you have an ACTIVE USB device present or he USB drivers will not load. Remember here that linux (unlike windows) is NOT a generic install. It will ONLY install the modules and drivers that is needed. Linux does a setup according to the ACTIVE hardware at install.

As for resolution, do that at post install, you get an option to change most. Careful though not to touch what you do now understand.

For win32 apps use wine. Wine is a win32 emulator and has a fake C: drive, registry and all. Not all programs will install with wine so you have to trick the sucker, and it is not hard by making a copy of the windows registry and making minor edit and putting that in the wine registry.
Also remember that linux is NOT windows and will take some configuring, but in the long run it is worth it if this really is the road you want to go.

Good luck!

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Posted 25 September 2007 - 04:49 PM

Well I have been fooling around a little bit, and I want to install an editor. However, I can't figure out how to get into the command line :lol:. Does anyone know how?

BTW, This is Ubuntu now, not Fedora.

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Posted 25 September 2007 - 05:54 PM

Look for a app called either console or terminal.

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Posted 25 September 2007 - 08:45 PM

Okay, yap. I found that. Now, I need a program that is like WAMP for Windows, but I need one for Linux. Anyone know of one?

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Posted 26 September 2007 - 03:31 AM

Linux has apache, mysql and php at install. If you selected web server at install all that is done for you.
If you want a web server I done a tutorial on setting up a development server. Click my tuts and have a look.
It is on a different distro from what you are using, but may help as uses the same window manager.

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Posted 26 September 2007 - 06:16 AM

I'm having trouble logging in as root. It won't let me from the login screen, it says "The system administrator can't login from this screen". So I try it from the terminal, I type su - root. Then it asks me for a password, but won't let me enter anything. Then I push enter, and it says "Authentication Failure".

Anyone know why?

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Posted 26 September 2007 - 09:07 AM

Ubuntu does not have a root account.. it uses what is call a sudo root account, which is why I am not keen on it.
I prefer a distro that has a full root account as many things cannot be done by a user.
Should of selected either Fedora as suggested.. but my suggestion is most def CentOS as a server. RedHat based.

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Posted 26 September 2007 - 02:35 PM

I don't want it as a server though. Just an operating system to use as a PC. What exactly is a sudo root account? When I go to the account manager, root is on the list.

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Posted 26 September 2007 - 03:26 PM

Ok when you are in terminal You need a add sudo to all root actions.
Just enter sudo and it will prompt for the root password and then you have sudo root access.
Do some reading up on sudo accounts as I ain't got much info on there as I stare clear of sudo root distros.




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