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Faken
Anyone here willing to share their text ad stories? I know there are many alternatives to those not able to use Google's adsense program, so list who you've tried out or ended up using instead!

The only one I know of is http://www.bannerboxes.com but to be honest, I've never really looked very hard as I am happy with adsense. Anyone have other places worth recommending or condemning?

Faken
Unreal
ive been using http://www.clicksor.com, seems to be ok, but you have to wait until you get to $50 before you get payed.. so i hate it victory.gif Does adsense support paypal yet?
adam123
Does anyone know any good british companies? Doesn't have to be text, it can banner or animated.
Donna
QUOTE(Unreal @ Oct 1 2004, 04:14 PM)
ive been using http://www.clicksor.com, seems to be ok, but you have to wait until you get to $50 before you get payed.. so i hate it victory.gif Does adsense support paypal yet?

Google sends a cheque to your home address, I don't really see the point in them paying to a Paypal account.

$50 is peanuts.
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Faken yeah theres a few different things around but out of everything I have looked at Google Adsense is the best.
F.A.B.
I'm sorry if i'm straying off topic a lil' but there are thousands of "affiliate" programs you can set up. For example, theres one where you have a search bar on your site, and get paid for each succesful click thru from that search.
Gio
QUOTE(F.A.B. @ Dec 16 2004, 12:35 AM)
I'm sorry if i'm straying off topic a lil' but there are thousands of "affiliate" programs you can set up. For example, theres one where you have a search bar on your site, and get paid for each succesful click thru from that search.

Share with us the name of this of course!
[mez]
I've heard http://adhearus.com/ are good. unsure.gif
Jamie Huskisson
QUOTE(Gio @ Dec 17 2004, 06:57 PM)
QUOTE(F.A.B. @ Dec 16 2004, 12:35 AM)
I'm sorry if i'm straying off topic a lil' but there are thousands of "affiliate" programs you can set up. For example, theres one where you have a search bar on your site, and get paid for each succesful click thru from that search.

Share with us the name of this of course!

google

duh
squr3l
you wouldnt happen to know of any ad programs that pay minors and dont ask for social security info or anything like that, would you?
Donna
QUOTE(squrel @ Mar 16 2005, 06:28 AM)
you wouldnt happen to know of any ad programs that pay minors and dont ask for social security info or anything like that, would you?

If your old enough to make an income your old enough to pay taxes, I have never heard of minors getting paid for ads majority hide under their parents names, kinda feel sorry for their parents when the tax man comes knocking because its all recorded.
squr3l
well im trying that right now and adsense isnt quite working for me cuz im not quite sure how to approach my mom and ask for her bank account info and her social security info... im using this www.mod-chip.com make money offer and so far its workin even though im not quite sure if they pay out a check or just paypal (which i also tried bigwink.gif)
F.A.B.
Try:
www.clickthroughtraffic.com
www.searchtraffic.com
squr3l
ok ill try those thanks bigwink.gif
squr3l
dangit...
"A valid USA social security number must be provided for all payments made to USA addresses." -clickthroughtraffic.com
"A valid USA social security number must be provided for all payments made to USA addresses." -searchtraffic.com
hmmm... ill try looking for more programs ooo i see an ad for www.overture.com right here ill try that happy.gif
EUTHANATOS
I've been looking at different affiliates and i do have to say that adsense is probably goign to be my choice i run quite a few sites and the adds are not that big of a deal. Besides. i heartpump.gif google. Have all of their software on this hummin baby from Hello to the toolbar i use in firefox.
eVoGre3n
For me the ads are a big deal. tongue.gif

I make the majority of my revenue through Google Adsense, they have been very good to me shades.gif

There are plenty alternatives, just search it in google

and check out this forum:

http://sitepoint.com/forums

Best resource smile.gif Aswell Yahoo and M$ are coming out with their own ad publishing programs real soon to compete with google, they will be the major alternatives to google.

There are other types of advertising other than google which is pay per click, there is pay per impression (CPM) that pay for every time your add is viewed, things like BurstMedia etc, they are very difficult to get into you need like 5000 unique daily before they even consider your website or something like that (i forget honestly)

Check the forum mentioned above, youll find all the info you need there smile.gif
sheep
QUOTE(eVoGre3n @ May 7 2005, 02:00 PM)
For me the ads are a big deal. tongue.gif

I make the majority of my revenue through Google Adsense, they have been very good to me shades.gif

There are plenty alternatives, just search it in google

and check out this forum:

http://sitepoint.com/forums

Best resource smile.gif Aswell Yahoo and M$ are coming out with their own ad publishing programs real soon to compete with google, they will be the major alternatives to google.

There are other types of advertising other than google which is pay per click, there is pay per impression (CPM) that pay for every time your add is viewed, things like BurstMedia etc, they are very difficult to get into you need like 5000 unique daily before they even consider your website or something like that (i forget honestly)

Check the forum mentioned above, youll find all the info you need there smile.gif

yahoo requires you to be a US citizen...darn it...
SKETCHi
Here's a list of alternatives to AdSense. Some contextual, some standard banners and text links. But be warned, some of these companies do have bad reputations and most will not match the revenue of AdSense. So be careful when choosing an advertiser.

I personally recommend Yahoo! Publisher Network for any US resident. Don't worry everyone, once it's out of BETA it will be available to everyone.

Yahoo! Publisher Network (BETA/USA Only)
Chitika
Clicksor
TargetPoint
BidClix
AllFeeds
Adhearus
AffiliateSensor
Bidvertiser
Revenue Pilot
Kanoodle Bright Ads
Enhance Interactive
Quigo AdSonar
Searchfeed
Vibrant Media IntelliTXT
Vibrant Media SmartAd
Nixie
MIVA AdRevenue Xpress
Fastclick
Burst! Media
ValueClick
contextWeb ContextAd
CoverClicks
AdBrite
Rydium
Claxon
ClixGalore
radial
Thanks for that list Sketchi.
A few months ago we were banned from google adsense (and it wasnt from me clicking on the ads, im not that stupid) but anyway back on topic, i am currently using fastclick but im sure that if i was still with google i would be earning twice maybe even 3 times as much, does anyone know of any particularly good alternatives?
Ill be going through the list later.
SKETCHi
Well, if you're in the US then I suggest Yahoo! above all overs. I've also heard really good things about Chitika, Pixel2Life even uses them. I've also heard some pretty good things about TargetPoint, Clicksor and Bidvertiser.

The problem with CPM, like Fastclick, is that you need a really high traffic website to make good money. Contextual CPC ads usually work out much better for lower traffic websites.
Dark
Dunno what happened to target point but i heard they were a scam, also we all know AdSense seems to be the best but i just dont like the way Google just doesnt care who mass clicks your ads if u get invalid clicks your out, and they mostly likely wont listen to anything you say, you just get the same copy paste message as a reply.
I kinda stopped using ads when Google kicked me out after around 6 months of being with them and its been about 4 months since, might try yahoo or one of the other on that list sometime.
SKETCHi
Target Point is still around and is not a scam... I have used them when I was just starting out, I only made $1.52 or something, but they sent me a check for that amount.

Also, Yahoo! is way better than Google... you should definitely check them out.
Dark
oh my mistake it wasnt target point, it was target first. also i'll be sure to check out yahoo.
BlazeForc3
QUOTE(Donna @ Dec 13 2004, 11:48 PM) *
QUOTE(Unreal @ Oct 1 2004, 04:14 PM)
ive been using http://www.clicksor.com, seems to be ok, but you have to wait until you get to $50 before you get payed.. so i hate it victory.gif Does adsense support paypal yet?

Google sends a cheque to your home address, I don't really see the point in them paying to a Paypal account.

$50 is peanuts.
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Faken yeah theres a few different things around but out of everything I have looked at Google Adsense is the best.


$50 is peanuts for a site like p2l, i also use clicksor because it allows paypal
Faken
Payouts for Clicksor are a joke! 24 hours of 3 cent clicks and that was the end of that nonsense lol!

Dan
BlazeForc3
Your probably right judging by how succesful p2l is i guess i should take your advice smile.gif and use Adsense
Vouksh
My problem is not that I'm a minor (I'm 17) but that I don't have a flippin job (no license and my car is broke [gas leak] and i live out in the boonies), and I really need the help generating income for hosting now that I'm actually paying for it. Computer repair isn't steady enough for me to make income every month.

So I can't get google adsense because I don't have a W2 form. Grr.
Kristopher
Google clicked me out because a user who had a grudge against one of my sites repeatiatly clicked my ads over and over and they kicked me out I even sent emails to google that the guy who clicked the ads saying what he was going to do, they just didnt care. Which sucks I would try yahoo but they are not available in Canada.
Dark
GFXTuts i know, basically if your Website wasnt Big, just assuming it isnt smile.gif then google kicking you out wont affect them much, plus there are loads of other Publishers. Though if you could prove what you are saying, and send adsense some proof they might listen, otherwise they would just have your word, which for all they care wouldnt matter.
So the best thing to do if you have adsense is follow the TOS very strictly, if you see any changes etc alert adsense.

Also if i'm not mistaken once you're tirminated from Adsense you can never join them again ever, unless you change your name and address lol but that would be too extreme.
SKETCHi
I don't think changing your name and address would help either heh... they ask for your Social Security number don't they? So unless you steal some one elses identity...

Anyway, Dark is right, if your website isn't making thousands a month it seems like Google just doesn't care.

Certainly they could fix up their program a bit, so instead of banning users with dozens of clicks from the same IP, it just doesn't count those clicks... I suppose they either don't care enough or don't feel like spending the extra few dollars from their billion dollar wallet.
Donna
QUOTE(SKETCHi @ Mar 11 2006, 08:02 AM) *
I don't think changing your name and address would help either heh... they ask for your Social Security number don't they? So unless you steal some one elses identity...

Anyway, Dark is right, if your website isn't making thousands a month it seems like Google just doesn't care.

Certainly they could fix up their program a bit, so instead of banning users with dozens of clicks from the same IP, it just doesn't count those clicks... I suppose they either don't care enough or don't feel like spending the extra few dollars from their billion dollar wallet.




Your forgetting it costs them a lot of money in payouts when fraudulent clicks are made, sit on the other side of the fence and pay for ads and I'm sure you'll be screaming to Google in no time with hundreds of clicks and no sales smile.gif Google is already paying back 90 million to advertisers so it's a huge thing.
Av-
Well, as sketchi said, instead of banning people, they could just not count those clicks...
Ickie
Are their other companies (other than clicksor) that use Paypal? I prefer getting my payouts sent to Paypal since I don't need to cash any checks and can send money straight out of Paypal the same day.

Probably wondering why I would want to do that, but it's a secret?
Diagnostic
iunno much about this one i had it for a week and they shut me off cuz i was still building my account..

bidervtiser.com
Av-
yeah, http://www.bidvertiser.com is pretty cool aswell, bids can go up pretty high smile.gif
Head_Shot
Bidvertiser arnt great, unless you have a huge site the payouts are pathetic.

i used to use oxado, the payouts are great buy the contextual bit isnt brilliant, im trying out burst media at the moment, waiting untill yahoo oges world wide smile.gif

edit

scrap that, my site probably does get 5k views per month but as the new thing has only been up for a few days, ill leave it a while smile.gif

Also just went back to oxado to check a few things, i made 12 euros from 6 clicks smile.gif

just thought id let you all know heh
SKETCHi
QUOTE(Donna @ Mar 10 2006, 09:30 PM) *
QUOTE(SKETCHi @ Mar 11 2006, 08:02 AM) *
I don't think changing your name and address would help either heh... they ask for your Social Security number don't they? So unless you steal some one elses identity...

Anyway, Dark is right, if your website isn't making thousands a month it seems like Google just doesn't care.

Certainly they could fix up their program a bit, so instead of banning users with dozens of clicks from the same IP, it just doesn't count those clicks... I suppose they either don't care enough or don't feel like spending the extra few dollars from their billion dollar wallet.




Your forgetting it costs them a lot of money in payouts when fraudulent clicks are made, sit on the other side of the fence and pay for ads and I'm sure you'll be screaming to Google in no time with hundreds of clicks and no sales smile.gif Google is already paying back 90 million to advertisers so it's a huge thing.


I have used AdWords and I do sit there wondering how many of the clicks are fake. Google can do something about it, but they choose not to. When fraudulent clicks occur, instead of banning the publisher, they could just disqualify those clicks and not charge the advertiser(s) for them. Instead, Google turns their back on countless honest publishers, assuming they are lying. Google prefers the guilty before proven innocent approach.
Donna
QUOTE(SKETCHi @ Apr 5 2006, 08:41 PM) *
I have used AdWords and I do sit there wondering how many of the clicks are fake. Google can do something about it, but they choose not to. When fraudulent clicks occur, instead of banning the publisher, they could just disqualify those clicks and not charge the advertiser(s) for them. Instead, Google turns their back on countless honest publishers, assuming they are lying. Google prefers the guilty before proven innocent approach.


There could be numerous reasons Goggle suspend accounts, I see many sites from here (via the tutorials listings) asking visitors to click ads for example or they have topics in their forums asking members to click ads, to me those publishers should be banned a few fraudulent clicks is also money out of someone elses pocket so why should they be getting paid?
SKETCHi
Those people should be banned, but those aren't the people I'm referring to. I'm talking about the people who genuinely don't cheat or honestly know they were cheating.

I followed the TOS to a T, but I was banned and never received any notification or a response from them after sevaral emails. Sure, Google didn't owe me an explanation, and I'm not saying they did. It's just bad business in my opinion.

For the people who didn't know they were cheating, it is their own fault. But if it was an innocent mistake Google should at least hear them out.
Nick
If Google were to hear everyone out that made an honest mistake then they wouldn't have any time to do anything except listen to people plead their case for why they should get their ads back.
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