So how do you use Vray exactly in Cinema 4D? I'm more comfortable in Cinema then I'am 3D studio Max so I was curious how exactly does Vray work before I purchase something like that?

i'll tell you the moment i found out myself,

after a while i gave up bdw....

1. you must have lights in your scene
2. you must use 'vray' materials
3. better off using vray camera too.
4. GI must be on in the vray render settings.

But til now, no real results
in bout 10 years ill tell you :roll:

hmmm ok. So it sounds pretty complicated to say the least lol....Hopefully I can figure it out because it looks as if it really adds realism to your render.

its just a renderer... install it and set it as you default renderer then just apply all your materials, lights, cameras etc (vray has its own but you can also use standard ones) like you usually do.

GI is great and i turn it on straight away when i open a scene, but you can use vray without it.

my materials come out ugly and most of the time my scenes are too dark somehow, or all washed out...

start a new thread, post your scene + vray settings, and ill try point you in the right direction...

... if you want help with it, that is.

edit: sorry, when i say scene i mean an image of your scene, as well as including any lights you are using and their settings.

and to the OP: if you buy vray, in the longrun your work will end up being of a much higher quality and be produced in a shorter period of time. FACT.

BUT you cant expect vray to do all the work for you. a great scene starts from the modelling, then the lighting and material and finally composition... you have to work on all aspects of a scene to make it great, its alot of hard work to get it all right but one day when you do you will be a very happy camper it takes alot of learning and patience.

that said, its not worth the money if youre not serious about your 3d work. if you just do logos in 3d and abstract renders then dont waste your money. if youre doing serious product/architectural visualisation, or serious animations, then the money you earn from that will - eventually - recoup the money spent on vray 100x over