Well then, googled the net, searched forums but no results anywhere. SO, im asking the p2l community.

What's needed to call yourself a "webdesigner" really? except for the part that you need to know
how to make a design. But some folks have been saying you should know this n that coding language
as well before you can really call yourself that.
If i remember correctly someone mentioned java, javascript, AJAX and stuff like that. (I do belive this
belongs to webdeveloper thought.)

What's your idea about whats required to call someone a webdesigner?

P.S Yes i know HTML atleast! D.S

I'm not an expert in this at all so don't take my word for it exactly but this is my opinion.

Even if your good at designing sites. If you can't make them work then it's pointless in my opinion. In most companies that make websites. They would rather some one that could do both instead of paying 2 people to do it. True their are some people that only do the scripting and coding part of it but even the people that design the site need to have atleast a good knowledge of what the coding will do and what are it's limitations. Or else you might have an idea in your head but in the end it wont be able to be realized.

Again this is my opinion. I have worked in a marketing firm that created websites and most of the people there had a good enough knowledge of some kind of coding. Maybe less AJAX but they know flash scripting and CSS and javascript.

Web Designer: Someone who has the skills to layout information in such a way that the end-user can comprehend the content. Basic html/css knowledge is a plus. For this you mainly need Photoshop/Illustrator, and color scheme skill. This is basically a graphic designer with some knowledge of web.

A Web Developer is the person who might be able to design, but focuses more on the html/css/ajax and server-side coding.

(This is very debatable)

Job titles do not matter

Very true.

Business titles are self annointed... you're a web designer if you say you are. That's how the candidates n the apprentice get away with being proffesionals.

If you can make sigs you'll be a web designer in a week lol...........another words theres no skill to be or become one even your grandma's can design sites these days.

Lots of info around the web

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_designer
http://www.w-edge.com/articles/webdesigner.htm

thank you for your replies and sharing of your thoughts. It's not really something about getting a job as a webdesigner
or anything im after, but more like developing. The colorscheming, usage of photoshop and knowledge what can be used
and what cannot be used on a website is in my knowledge (or there's google to check it with).

But yeah, i agree knowing HTML (which i do) and CSS is a good plus. But after hearing some friends out it's recommended
to also be knowledgeable with AJAX and javascript as well.

well then, looks like its time to dust off my "Learn CSS" book and bring it to work and read during my breaks.

Designing and coding are two completely different things. php, perl, javascript etc etc is the backbone of the website. Helps run stuff such as: forms, forums, chat rooms, other misc. stuff. The design, is the appearance of the website. If the design catches the users attention, you're a designer. If it doesn't, you're still a designer just not a very good one OR one with little or no experience at all. Coding langs. takes a bit more concentration and patience.

My suggestion is start off learn HTML (learn making links, bold faces etc etc), then hop over to CSS and mingle with that really quick. Anyways just my opinion. Take it or leave it.

Thank you for the comment, of course it's two different things however some people find the basic coding (HTML, XHTML, CSS) somewhat connected with the designing part. I don't know, that's why im asking

Also i'm familiar with HTML, have ordered a few books who's about XHTML & CSS atm. Will probably move on to other
coding languages after that i've somewhat got enough skill/knowledge with these two.

If you can design stuff and you're happy with the outcome, congratulations bro, you're a designer