Steve "The Crocodile Hunter" Irwin killed...
#21
Posted 04 September 2006 - 04:55 AM
#22
Posted 04 September 2006 - 05:00 AM
Its not nothing exciting to find out thought :'(
Even so... you wouldn't want to go the rest of your life not knowing, would you?
#23
Posted 04 September 2006 - 05:24 AM
#24
Posted 04 September 2006 - 06:42 AM
Very sad, very sad indeed (i was thinking this was going to be a joke from the title )
#25
Posted 04 September 2006 - 06:42 AM
Choking back tears, Mr Stainton said Irwin had gone “over the top of a stingray and a stingray's barb went up and went into his chest and put a hole into his heart”.
http://www.news.com....49888-2,00.html
#26
Posted 04 September 2006 - 06:43 AM
No communications whatsoever, Dunno if shes been notified since!
Thats so sad that the media finds out and the world before she does!
#27
Posted 04 September 2006 - 07:18 AM
well it wasnt released in the media till this morning (my time) when the incident happened about 13 hours before, so one would assumed they found his wife before releasing a statment. its just plain disrespectful not too and i doubt anything would have been said.Apparently his wife dosent know yet because shes at a remote location,
No communications whatsoever, Dunno if shes been notified since!
Thats so sad that the media finds out and the world before she does!
but anyways, like adam said, if you'd read one of the two links posted it says she was found and notified.
#28
Posted 04 September 2006 - 07:26 AM
how could something like this happen though? is a stingray barb on its front or on its tail? surely he mustve seen it coming and thought 'oh shit, i better move' ... the guy was experienced enough.
Apparently he didnt want and guards ( protection wise), because he thought he was safe.
- Adam
http://www.jerrylabe...y/stingray3.jpg
It came up from underneath him apparently, which means he was swimming over it. Which before anyone says it is not a massively stupid thing to do as they dont usually go stabbing them into people to my knowledge Apparently the damn thing put a hole in his heart, he didn't stand a chance whatever was done.
Just think if he had been a few centimeters behind or infront it would have hit somewhere else
Put "stringray barb" in google images, nearly ever image is of Steve Irwin.
Edited by .Matt, 04 September 2006 - 07:26 AM.
#29
Posted 04 September 2006 - 07:39 AM
on that first link i think bug posted, it says the camera man was also in front of the ray, which could have left it feeling threatened, hence the attack (or defence, however you look at it).
how could something like this happen though? is a stingray barb on its front or on its tail? surely he mustve seen it coming and thought 'oh shit, i better move' ... the guy was experienced enough.
Apparently he didnt want and guards ( protection wise), because he thought he was safe.
- Adam
http://www.jerrylabe...y/stingray3.jpg
It came up from underneath him apparently, which means he was swimming over it. Which before anyone says it is not a massively stupid thing to do as they dont usually go stabbing them into people to my knowledge Apparently the damn thing put a hole in his heart, he didn't stand a chance whatever was done.
Just think if he had been a few centimeters behind or infront it would have hit somewhere else
Put "stringray barb" in google images, nearly ever image is of Steve Irwin.
it also mentions the barb was 20cm long and that they have serrated edges... so im guessing that instead of it being just a punture wound to his heart, it would rip it to shreds when pulled out which is probably why they reckon he may have died on the spot so im assuming a few centimetres up or down and it probably would have had the same effect on his lung or any other organ in the area, and coupled with a 30 minute boat ride to the island for the waiting helicopter, still wouldnt have left him with much chance to survive. but like you said, thats the difference between life and death sometimes i guess... centimetres.
#30
Posted 04 September 2006 - 09:58 AM
#31
Posted 04 September 2006 - 10:13 AM
#32
Posted 04 September 2006 - 10:56 AM
#33
Posted 04 September 2006 - 11:20 AM
it also mentions the barb was 20cm long and that they have serrated edges... so im guessing that instead of it being just a punture wound to his heart, it would rip it to shreds when pulled out which is probably why they reckon he may have died on the spot so im assuming a few centimetres up or down and it probably would have had the same effect on his lung or any other organ in the area, and coupled with a 30 minute boat ride to the island for the waiting helicopter, still wouldnt have left him with much chance to survive. but like you said, thats the difference between life and death sometimes i guess... centimetres.
You can't just pull a stingray barb out, they're one of the hardest things to have removed as the barbs point backwards and do the most damage when you remove them they will shred your flesh Stu so yes they're right, plus they have poison on them. I've had one in my hand 7.5cms when I used to go bowfishing in australia. They hurt like hell they have to be cut out.
They're saying 20cms? wow that's huge.
Steve would of had no chance even had they of got him to a hospital on time. Stingrays are not agressive unless provoked or startled and I'm still stunned by this news and what a painful way to die so very sad.
#34
Posted 04 September 2006 - 11:26 AM
#35
Posted 04 September 2006 - 01:44 PM
#36
Posted 04 September 2006 - 02:43 PM
i suppose 20cm could be normal for a stingray with a wingspan of 2.5 metres (which this one apparently was). do stingray barbs always get stuck? or do they sometimes come out intact when the stingrays tail pulls away?it also mentions the barb was 20cm long and that they have serrated edges... so im guessing that instead of it being just a punture wound to his heart, it would rip it to shreds when pulled out which is probably why they reckon he may have died on the spot so im assuming a few centimetres up or down and it probably would have had the same effect on his lung or any other organ in the area, and coupled with a 30 minute boat ride to the island for the waiting helicopter, still wouldnt have left him with much chance to survive. but like you said, thats the difference between life and death sometimes i guess... centimetres.
You can't just pull a stingray barb out, they're one of the hardest things to have removed as the barbs point backwards and do the most damage when you remove them they will shred your flesh Stu so yes they're right, plus they have poison on them. I've had one in my hand 7.5cms when I used to go bowfishing in australia. They hurt like hell they have to be cut out.
They're saying 20cms? wow that's huge.
Steve would of had no chance even had they of got him to a hospital on time. Stingrays are not agressive unless provoked or startled and I'm still stunned by this news and what a painful way to die so very sad.
#37
Posted 04 September 2006 - 03:11 PM
i suppose 20cm could be normal for a stingray with a wingspan of 2.5 metres (which this one apparently was). do stingray barbs always get stuck? or do they sometimes come out intact when the stingrays tail pulls away?it also mentions the barb was 20cm long and that they have serrated edges... so im guessing that instead of it being just a punture wound to his heart, it would rip it to shreds when pulled out which is probably why they reckon he may have died on the spot so im assuming a few centimetres up or down and it probably would have had the same effect on his lung or any other organ in the area, and coupled with a 30 minute boat ride to the island for the waiting helicopter, still wouldnt have left him with much chance to survive. but like you said, thats the difference between life and death sometimes i guess... centimetres.
You can't just pull a stingray barb out, they're one of the hardest things to have removed as the barbs point backwards and do the most damage when you remove them they will shred your flesh Stu so yes they're right, plus they have poison on them. I've had one in my hand 7.5cms when I used to go bowfishing in australia. They hurt like hell they have to be cut out.
They're saying 20cms? wow that's huge.
Steve would of had no chance even had they of got him to a hospital on time. Stingrays are not agressive unless provoked or startled and I'm still stunned by this news and what a painful way to die so very sad.
i believe its a like a fish hook so it would hook and pull so if it went backwards it might come out.
#38
Posted 04 September 2006 - 03:28 PM
Size of a ray doesn't necessarily mean they have big barbs either I've seen tiny ones with huge barbs and large ones with tiny barbs and rays with double barbs, then rays with no barbs at all.
This is just a freaky accident what happened to Steve poor guy, even worldwide theres only a few reported incidents of death from barb stings and now the Media will have a field day warning everyone of the dangers and scaring the hell outta people like they usually do when a famous person dies.
Was just watching the video news http://cosmos.bcst.y...r...4&ch=248154
#39
Posted 04 September 2006 - 04:05 PM
Hoot
#40
Posted 04 September 2006 - 04:24 PM
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